Well, a pretty unimpressive start in tying something remotely similar to the Ian James’ scud pattern. I tied one on a curved shank hook and the other on a straight shank hook. No ribbing over shellback as ribbing with bead in center of shank problematic. Also, these were size 12 & 14 hooks, so as I downsize not sure how this pattern will shape out. These look pretty good in person, so I need to as with all smaller flies, pay attention to the proportionment of materials while downsizing.